Dragon Age: Origins – Alistair Has a Secret Crush on Morrigan

Dragon Age: Origins – Alistair Has a Secret Crush on Morrigan

We all know by now that one of our favorite games is, without a doubt, Dragon Age: Origins.  Amazingly complex, deep characters abound in this RPG, making it a thoroughly engrossing and enjoyable journey for players.  And these deep characters might be even more complex than we first thought.  Let me just throw this out there -

Alistair has a secret crush on Morrigan.

Alistair & Morrigan

Steamy stolen glances between Alistair & Morrigan

Okay, so this one is pretty obvious – but might be hotly debated.  And honestly, I’m in the same boat.  I would be the first to say Alistair is completely in love with my character – and my character only.  Morrigan is further from his mind than north is to south.  But I’m here to play devil’s advocate.  So as much as I want to deny it, based on my full-on love for Alistair, but I can’t help seeing how this could be true.

Let’s start with the more general evidence.  Alistair and Morrigan are constantly bickering, with Morrigan heavily teasing Alistair.  This sort of behavior is akin to the playground mentality of hitting the girl you actually like.  (…except it’s Morrigan doing the beating on Alistair)  This bickering is what we call sexual tension.  You can practically create lightning from the electricity flowing between them.

In fact, I’m half convinced that’s how Morrigan has any powers at all.

Secondly, the dark ritual.  UGH.  I think all the female gamers shudder at the mere utterance of that phrase.  So, would any guy who truly had saved himself for his first time to be with someone he really loved agree to this?  Um, no.  “Raised in the Chantry”, he says…it ‘goes against his morals’ to tent without him knowing it’s true love.  Trying to get him in the sack with you is time-consuming.  You practically have to beg this guy to do it with you.  You have to gently work him up to the idea.  And yet, it takes all of one minute to convince him to sleep with Morrigan.  Granted, this act saves your life and his, but still.  Recall that he supposedly ‘loathes’ this woman.  Yet you basically just have to ask him please and he’s prancing into the room with Morrigan, kicking you out and locking the door.  Yes, he argues a little to save face and make himself look good, but he practically drooling at the thought.

The fact that the dark ritual is NEVER discussed afterwards between your character and Alistair is also incredibly suspicious.  I’ve touched on this before (in my letter to BioWare, I got a little sidetracking with horrible memories of the dark ritual event), but I need to say it again.  Wouldn’t Alistair say something to reassure you that being with Morrigan was awful, he hated it, he never wants to see her again, etc., etc.?  But no, there’s none of that.  Never even mentioned in passing.  Which brings me to my next point.

Any real female is going to ask about it.  There’s no way she wouldn’t – unless she already knows the truth.  The female playable character actually already knows the truth, which is that Alistair has a crush on Morrigan.  She doesn’t ask because she can’t bear to hear Alistair say that he loved every minute of being with Morrigan.  She’d rather go on without that acknowledgment.  Like the army says – Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.  Your character also hints at realizing the truth in the conversation with Alistair to ‘convince’ him to sleep with Morrigan.  One of the options for you to respond is to say “Your wildest dreams have come true: sex with Morrigan”.  Why would this even be an option unless there was some slight truth in this?!

Sad Alistair

Alistair's probably wishing you were Morrigan

And finally, at the very end of the game, Alistair asks about Morrigan leaving.  When he’s speaking, you can hear a touch of longing in his voice.  He’s sad to see her go, and this is a reflection of his sorrow.  “Oh, Morrigan and I just had sex…and I might love her…and she just ran off with my baby…do you think I’ll – I mean we – will ever see her again?”

Honestly, I hate thinking of this as a possibility.  I want Alistair to be 100% devoted to my character.  I think I’ll just try to forget that I ever wrote this…

By the way – BioWare, I never heard back about the life sized, anatomically correct, preferrably talking statue of Alistair, or the DVD of new Alistair scenes.  Do I need to send you my address first?  Thanks.  Still kisses to all of you BioWare-ians.

-Kat

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Posted On
Mar 02, 2010
Posted By
Matt

Although I didn’t have the same problem with the dark ritual since I was playing a male character, but I do remember several times feeling as though Alistair was jealous of my male Warden since Morrigan was my romance option. Especially since there was so much teasing going on, and really, even though Morrigan taunts Alistair pretty heavily, a lot of it seems playful… she doesn’t really dig into topics that would cause Alistair serious emotional distress, like mentioning Duncan. Instead, it’s more flirty things about Alistair being an idiot and the like, which he’s more than willing to dish right back.

So, I guess what I’m saying is that even from the male Warden perspective, I agree that there was a moment where I felt like maybe Alistair was eying my Witch of the Wilds a little too closely. All of which just goes to show how awesome and deep these characters really are!

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Posted On
Mar 04, 2010
Posted By
somebodysmum

I thought there was something going on there too. Alistair became very flustered when my male warden asked if he was jealous. He was very reluctant to go anywhere near my female warden’s tent, and she gave up on him. But during the cut scene of the dark ritual, he seemed to be more than willing. He was smiling, as if he was relieved to have an excuse to get it on with Morrigan at last, rather than just enduring the sex.

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Posted On
Mar 28, 2010
Posted By
Jade Cherry

I’m glad I found another gamer chick that feels the same way I do! lol

I totally loved Alistair & Duncan. Next favorites would be Sten, Shale, Zevran, Leliana, my war dog Rufus, & Oghren. I didn’t care for Wynne & as for Morrigan she started out cool until she sleeps w/ ur man! lol

I love this game & Awakenings was also good. (My 1st play through I was a female elf mage): Little did I know that they were such pariahs! I still had so much fun playing, I’m addicted to this game! :)

Romancing Alistair you have to pick to sacrifice yourself, sacrifice him or let him have a demon spawn w/ Morrigan on the eve of the big battle that’s sure to come to haunt you later. If you pick Logain to be a Warden then Alistair flips a s**t & you have no chance to even talk him into staying w/ the party. If you make Alistair king & you are an elf he casts you aside like nothing. Where’s my happily ever after, Bioware?! ;)

After beating the Archdemon I expected to actually see a parade! Plus they needed further contact w/ your party members afterwards. You just saved the world from a blight, don’t you deserve to find the nearest tavern & get ‘stupid’?! ;P

**Awakenings Spoilers**
As for Awakenings I felt it was rushed. Please don’t get me wrong it was a good expansion I just hoped for more.

pros: The quests are plenty, great new characters, the party banter is awesome & the loot drops more than make up for crappy loot in Origins.

cons: You can’t develop/interact w/ any of your new team members like you did in Origins. In Origins it was easy to be emotionally vested in your team but I didn’t get that from Awakenings, your old team mates don’t exist save for Oghren & Wynne (the last 2 I’d have picked to return), and again w/ the ending. It’s just like ok you did it…the end..plus I don’t feel as it answered all the questions about the mother, the dark spawn split, architect & etc. Another thing that irked me was the fact you couldn’t still play after you beat the mother. They made it so in Mass Efffect 2 so why not in DA?

Oghren: So. With the boss, aye?
Alistair: Pardon?
Oghren: You and the boss. Rolling your oats.
Alistair: I don’t know–
Oghren: Polishing the footstones.
Alistair: –what you’re–
Oghren: Tapping the midnight still, if you will.
Alistair: what are you going on about?
Oghren: Forging the moaning statue. Bucking the forbidden horse. Donning the velvet hat.
Alistair: Are you just making these up right now?
Oghren: Nope. Been saving ‘em.

Credit goes to: http://carocat.co.uk/2009/11/29/dragon-age-alistair/

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Posted On
Apr 07, 2010
Posted By
Luna

a question: how did you convinced Alistair in doing it?? I’m failing so hard… guess it’s my jealous side of the virtual world… but serious, how?

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Posted On
Apr 12, 2010
Posted By
polishtheconsole

I had the same damn problem. He’s just so…timid. Kat helped me get the achievement by telling me to just be cheeky but not offensive, nice but don’t baby him, and just give him time.

Morrigan you can get in the tent by the end of Lothering. Not a challenge at all.

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Posted On
Apr 13, 2010
Posted By
kattiki

Luna, are you asking about how to tent Alistair (well worth the wait) or how to get him to agree to do the dark ritual? If the first, like Wadoobie mentioned, just try to be nice to him (never put him down or tell him to be a man, he hates that), and he sometimes likes when you joke right back with him. I’m actually working on a tenting guide for Alistair! :)

Regarding the dark ritual, basically anything you say will end up with him agreeing. Just try to break it to him gently, but don’t make it sound like you’re requiring him to do it.

Happy tenting!
Kat

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Apr 10, 2010
Posted By
marie

Y’all, Alister just needs to be treated like a gentleman. Take it slow and real, like you would in real life, with a neglected prince with a heart of gold. After easing him into it, he was all on me. I must’ve broke records on the number of tent trips and pdas. (my instigation–I’m just that kind of she-elf ;) And so, when ritual time came, i wasn’t concerned about him getting into Morrigan. Mostly because the look on his face as she saunters up to him on the bed was nothing but uneasy fear. And she’s smiling real big!

So, in my experience, it’s Morrigan who has the crush on Alistair. I once overheard Zevran talking to Alistair. Alistair says something sassy and Zevran says somethin like “that cynicism will serve you. Morrigan said you were sharp…” After all those times she called him a idiot, look what she says behind my back!

Um Hm…

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Apr 10, 2010
Posted By
marie

Oh yeah, one more thing that helped me with Morrigan & the ritual–she leaves and Alistair stays with me. So since she’s out of the picture the day after, Alistair and I live happily ever after together AND he lost his virginity to me, I figure what’s the threat? The guy’s due one night out. I mean, I didn’t assume I arrived in Ostagar untouched, so to speak. I figure, if I’ve come up through the Alienage, I’ve lived and breathed. Lived and breathed! So why deny this with Morrigan when it’ll save both our lives? And he’s willing? Besides, back in another conversation, when I asked him where the relationship was going, he says he wouldn’t give me up, he’d find a way for us to stay together no matter if he was king or what. So why worry?

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[...] if…what if Alistair doesn’t love me anymore?  What if he has had continued fantasies of Morrigan from the Dark Ritual night, and is now wishing he hadn’t decided to (agreed to, rather) marry [...]

Posted On
May 02, 2010
Posted By
Dee

Kat-

Although you make many valid points, you DID notice that in the actual ritual scene, Alistair looked a bit fearful of Morrigan’s advance towards him in bed, edging away. You could pass it on as an “act” but, it seemed quite real. Regarding the begging him to sleep with you, that actually doesn’t have to occur, if you “play” the innocent old fashioned “you have to ask ME to sleep with you ” style game, where you wait until he is at love status, and then he makes the move on you (as a chantry raised courting gentleman would). It fits more to his personality, and would be considered nontraditional and a bit too unorthodox if you as the woman would bed him.
Regarding the persuasion issue, yes, if you have coercion, you may persuade him easily, (which throughout the game sort of yields unrealistic results) . I am not sure how easy it is to persuade him to sleep with Morrigan without coercion.
Yes, I was disappointed that he mentions nothing after, but don’t forget it was you who asked him to do it. Now you want a description? He should have mixed feelings about your morals after a request like that.

Personally I would have preferred a deeper conversation regarding the ritual, where both Alistair and the PC are contemplating the moral issues *together* rather than a simple quick persuasion. That would have made me feel a bit more content that the decision was made mutually after much thought. It would have felt more realistic, since we are now a couple.

Dee

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Posted On
May 02, 2010
Posted By
Dee

Sorry I never finished the thought :)

So yes, it may seem that all of the elements of a secret crush are there…. but his true love is pure for you, a flourishing relationship, and Morrigan (a mage ;) would probably be only a dirty thought for him that most likely wouldn’t last. Alistair is a good-hearted man, and Morrigan would simply piss him off eventually. You could take comfort in the thought that he doesn’t mention any of it since it was a cold task complete.

Take care

Dee

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Posted On
May 04, 2010
Posted By
May

Don’t worry dear- I felt the same way! Won’t say too much in case people haven’t finished, but it does seem if you play a female warden and decide to romance Alistair (and really who wouldn’t?) you do get the short end of the stick. Extra sucky too if you’re not human…

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Posted On
May 22, 2010
Posted By
Femme

Just gonna point out, if you don’t rush Alistair into going into sleeping with you, he eventually asks you himself. And the speech he gives is the sweetest thing ever. You missed out by rushing, ladies. ;)

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Mar 22, 2011
Posted By
Kendra

I think this depended on your character’s path, actually.

Alistair didn’t fight laying with my character one bit when I finally asked him, and he did bring it up in later conversations – happily.
Now I don’t know how the Morrigan thing will play out with him, since I refused her offer and I’m loading up a previous save now to see if I can get him to do it with our relationship remaining intact – simply because I sort of need Morrigan in my party for the battle, I rely on her greatly.

I will, however, sacrifice this to stay with Alistair, seeing as how hard I’ve worked to keep their relationship immaculate.

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May 12, 2011
Posted By
Claire

Honestly…. I liked Morrigan since the start, she was very cool and mysterious and…. I also have to admit she is somewhat beautiful because of her exotic features…. and because of my fascination I included her in my party, ALWAYS, I never thought of removing her because she was so damn helpful & interesting =) but…. when I learned about the ritual…. letting my character’s Alistair sleep with her NEVER crossed my mind…. I mean, who would want you yourself sit in another room while your man was being laid in another room with a totally hot chick? No doubt, he would somewhat like it… or try to like it… since alistair is still a man, no matter how faithful he looks… I HATED Morrigan since then… but I still begged her to stay because i needed her in the final battle, but you can’t get everything so she still left….So during my first playthrough my initial plan was to sacrifice myself… But when I finally killed the archdemon… He stops me and does it himself,,,, no matter what I say to him… and that led me to thinking if it was better to let Morrigan bed him… since it was only a one time thing and I felt extreme guilt… but I still couldn’t bear the nightmares it will bring if it happened…. hmmm… Now this article just made my nightmares worse =( as they say Ignorance is a bliss… I rather not know if Alistair really has a crush on Morrigan… God, I’m over thinking things…

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Feb 05, 2012
Posted By
Kerry Le Blanc

Well he may a crush on her though I doubt it, considering the way she degrades him and she definitely doesn’t like him, thinks he’s a moron, too bad us guys can’t have both her and Leliana, but as Morrigan says she doesn’t share.

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Oct 15, 2012
Posted By
Jonathan Lyche

Seriously? Great chars? Dragon Age are the most overrated game of the decade except for maybe Skyrim.
The interaction with your teammembers are stiff and it doesnt really matter that much, sure u can choose the ending, but comon i thought that rpgs had come further than that.

Dont eat out of Biowares hands, make them improve the games and dont be so obsessive.

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Jan 10, 2013
Posted By
Lell

His reaction to ritual is different when you hardened him. When he’s hadened he is drolling indeed, but without it he isn’t smirking he is more disgusted in my opinion.

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Jan 22, 2013
Posted By
KatTiki

Oh that’s interesting! I didn’t know you could get him to agree if he wasn’t hardened. I might try that in my next playthrough :)

-Kat

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