Category: Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening

Dragon Age: Origins - AwakeningI love comments of all shapes and sizes. As long as they are good I will pet them, hug them, and place them on my mantle for all to see. A good comment truly makes my day. I good comment is anything that it thought out and has any valid point to make. Good comments don’t always agree however they are still interesting. Usually when people disagree with something we’ve said we find it interesting but try not to engage in a debate with them. It’s their opinion and more power to them for having it. However once in a while someone else responds. What you see below is one such instance.

A while back I wrote a post that met with general agreement: Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening: No Romance, No Tenting? As the title suggests it was a piece that helped answer the question “can you tent in Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening?”. One commenter (ttruthbetold) had this to say on the subject:

This website has somewhat false info. For one thing it’s mission focused yes… and your character may mess around after your romances in Origins but others don’t. For instance, my favorite warrior’s romance with Lelianna continued after I finished awakening. It told me how he ‘retired’ from commander of the greywardens and never returned to the keep. Only to be seen beside his love the red head bard Lelianna. and so on so forth… So in a sense relationships do carry over.

And this problem doesn’t take away from the game. Unless you want to slut your previous char around. Where I do see a problem is if you start an ‘orlesian’ warden and you want to romance one of the characters. But it still doesn’t take away from the game IMO… unless you like to hoe around lol – if so… more power to you, but quit whining.

Well played, sir…well played. I was content to let it slide even though I disagreed, but then we received a comment that I could not ignore. Kytti, who Kat instantly became a fan of because of the name, disagreed with ttruthbetold. She says:

Actually, I believe what the issue is partly the fact that romancing and developing relationships with the other characters in the game is one of the major features of this game that many have come to love. The fact that it’s been stripped away takes away from the gameplay for many many people.

And while you may have had a relationship with someone in DAO and want to remain faithful to them is fine, there are also the people who didn’t have a relationship with any of the DAO characters, etc.

Also while you might be satisfied with a summary of who knows how many years of your character’s life, done in ONE measly paragraph a great many more are not.

I for one found the character development one of the things that made the game and story so wonderful and something to draw you in further. As a description of the games says ‘Immerse yourself in a shattered world’ and ‘Experience complex moral decisions that have game-changing consequences’ it really is not surprising that people would be heavily disappointed when a so-called expansion comes about that takes those interesting and dynamic experiences away.

I don’t know how many people will agree with me on this point, but from what I have read on several forums I’m not the only one who feels cheated. The ending of the game was so incredibly anti-climactic that I could only stare at the credits with disbelief, thinking… WTF?! I also wondered if I’d messed anything up for it to end so abruptly… but nope, that’s normal. So to add insult to injury they then teased with an ‘expansion’ that didn’t EXPAND onto the game, rather tried to stretch it out for as little effort as possible.

It’s like Bioware just gave us an incredible, and special experience, then left without so much as a goodbye. ‘Wham, bam, thank you ma’am’ if you know that saying.
Wham- you slay the archdemon, your regaled as the hero of Fereldan, your friends go off on their adventures and you are promised more time with your beloved (except for those with none, or Morrigan of course)… then… a disappointing 5 minute read of summary that while ended things left promises unfulfilled and unsatisfied…
BAM- ‘Guess what everyone, you get an expansion onto Origins using your PC (if you want) and get to go off on another adventure! But wait… several of the favorite gameplay features isn’t available anymore. Oh, and sorry none of your favorite characters will actually be around besides cameos’
Thank you ma’am!

And piling on yet another disappointment, this expansion isn’t even fully canon to the storyline for everyone. For those who became ruler of Fereldan… How the heck did you get away from court, WITHOUT bodyguards or troops to go adventuring? Or, using my first ending as an example:
Alistair and my character are together, and while he isn’t King, we both decide to stay with the Grey Wardens, together. Even the one paragraph summary at the ending states that Alistair never left her side except for the short time to make a memorial for Duncan. So, I ask… if he never leaves her side, then how can Awakening be canon if he only shows up for a short time for a conversation, and then the PC goes off galavanting… and without any other wardens as well for help, since she is the Commander? It can’t be. So, forgive me for feeling betrayed… but that IS what has happened to myself and many many others.

As someone pointed out in one of the other forums I read, and with which I agree, the other DLC’s are sexist. Witch Hunt- revolves around Morrigan and that is only 1-2 hour advertisement for DA2 it seems. And Leliana’s story is a prequel.

Bioware wake up and smell the coffee! Why are the characters being made 2D in personality after giving us ones with so much more depth first? It certainly can not be for the sake of money making, since every character has tremendous potential to have a continuation afterwards… like a TRUE expansion! And I would bet, despite the fact I have terrible luck, that those continuations would make a lot of money since people would want to experience them for in the very least their favorites. And most likely a lot of fans would want to experience them all. While there was a go made at expanding on things for Morrigan, that was cheapened, and the others, Zevran, Wynne, Shale, Leliana, Oghren, Sten and (my personal fave) Alistair were abandoned.

As a writer myself, I cannot understand how easily Bioware’s writer could do this to their own characters as well. It’s like killing them off, without really doing so and leaving many loose ends unsatisfied. Honestly, I hope that the writer is haunted by these characters until they are given the respect they deserve.

And Bioware, don’t you think your fans at the very least deserve more then a void of dissatisfaction left in DAO’s wake?

I’m not against DA2, but while it sounds like another good game to come it’s like another slap in the face to many of the good people who loved DAO so much. You would think that with each game that comes along in a series there would be more features, or at the very least the same. But DA2 takes away from them, the biggest that I know of so far is taking away our choice of PC race. Personally I dislike being forced into playing a human when there are other races available. Truly is it giving us the chance to build our PC around a fantasy version that we want when you have no choice? I don’t believe so. I know that it wouldn’t get changed anyways since it’s so close to when it’s supposed to be done, but I hope that this is something Bioware will consider if enough people voice their opinion regarding it.

Perhaps fellow Canadians that live near Bioware should do a protest there XD That would be hard to ignore!

But seriously, I think it’s in poor taste if they abandon DAO altogether after such disappointing continuations. They should not tease with promises that they give up on so easily.

Anywho, that’s it from me, just had to get that all off my chest. Join me in crossing your fingers in the hope that Bioware will wake up and realize the injustice they are doing to themselves, DA and their fans…

So now the question is….who do YOU find yourself agreeing with?


(polls)

Both parties raise very valid points. Both opinions have merit. Both opinions are thought provoking. Let us know below if you have more of an opinion. Who knows, your comment may wind up in another Dragon Age: Origins – Awakenings post. One thing however is certain, don’t touch Oghren’s junk.

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Hi, BioWare.  It’s me, Kat.  Your faithful follower and devotee of every game (*ahem* mostly) you put on the market.  You know that I love you (see ‘An Ode to BioWare‘).  But, why, oh why, do you continue to toy with my heart?

You know – I’m 99.9% sure you know – that we here at Polish the Console are waiting with bated breath for the next Dragon Age release.  We are on pins and needles.  We’re dancing with impatience, much like a small child will dance when he or she needs to use the restroom.  We’re on the edge of our seats.  And yes, I understand that we will be feeling all those cliches until March 2011 when Dragon Age 2 is released.

Look! We found Morrigan in DA2!

But with the news we’ve recently heard, I have to say I’m already upset.  First of all, as presented in Wadoobie’s post, you can only be a human, and your human character can only be named Hawke.  Well that just really pisses me off.  I like Avaline (even if others don’t).  Yes, she’s a human, but one of the great things about Dragon Age: Origins was the fact that you literally were starting your character from scratch.  As Wadoobie said, you get to feel so immersed in this character that you’ve created because have brought them up from nothing.  You really feel like you have a unique character.

Giving us a template, telling the players, “You’re playing as a human!  We’ve recorded a voice!  And his or her name is Hawke, no matter what!”  Well damn.  Do we get to at least choose what the character looks like?  Wadoobie is right; this feels exactly like Mass Effect.  …wait, does that mean Jennifer Hale is voicing the female character?  Okay, half point in the positive.

Another thing.  Directly from the BioWare Dragon Age 2 site comes this quote –

“Think like a general and fight like a Spartan with dynamic new combat mechanics that put you right in the heart of battle whether you are a mage, rogue, or warrior.”

Meet your Dragon Age 2 character.

Fight like a Spartan?  In absolute truth, I just watched 300 yesterday.  BioWare, if you’re going to reveal this little gem, I expect to see oiled-up men in the background clothed in nothing but a minuscule loincloth, with glistening six pack abs.  Kinda like the way Alistair looks when you unequip all his armor and weapons.  Seriously though, ‘fight like a Spartan’ kinda scares me.  It makes me imagine that I’ll be playing Dynasty Warriors rather than Dragon Age.

My final comment?  Romance, tenting.  Don’t worry BioWare, I trust you.  I believe you’ll do the right thing and include the romance aspect, like you always do with the major releases.  Notice I said major, not all.  I will exclude expansions and DLC from this topic.

Don’t let me down, BioWare!

-Kat

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BioWare.  I love you.  And I can’t wait to hear what you’re doing at E3.  BUT – I have a complaint.

To be honest, at first, I thought it was funny.  But now it’s starting to bug the heck out of me.

Remember Jukka, Legion of the Dead member with Sigrun? Yeah, he'll die right after this conversation like Keenan.

What’s up with the characters you meet along your journey, let’s say Keenan from Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening, who are injured and DIE INSTANTLY AFTER YOU FINISH THE CONVERSATION WITH THEM?  WTF?

“My name is Keenan.  My legs are crushed.  I want vengeance on the darkspawn who did this to me, and I want you to take my wedding ring back to my wife.  What’s that, you say?  You might be able to carry me out of here to safety for me to see my wife again?  Oh no, I think I’ll be very tragic and say, ‘I’ll slow you down too much!’.  And then, I’ll die immediately when you’re done talking to me and be a cold, lifeless figure on the ground, unmoving and tragic.”

Yeah.  So immediately after that ridiculous conversation, Keenan in nothing but a dead body sprawled on the ground.  Really?!  He didn’t seem like he was that badly injured.  Just some crushed legs!  I know that must be painful but was he really on the verge of death while having this conversation?  You would think there would be some type of indication, perhaps the ever-fatal death rattle cough.

Not to mention, the whole point of meeting him is to get his quest, which is to get his wedding ring back from the darkspawn and return it to his wife.  So, you’re telling me that this guy had absolutely no will or resolve, even after I suggested it, to try and escape with us to return to his wife HIMSELF?  Now that’s just kinda sad.  Although given that we discovered his wife with another man, maybe it was better for poor Keenan’s heart that he didn’t make it back.

Meow! You don't want to see me coming for you...

Keenan isn’t the only instance of someone dying immediately after talking to them.  There are plenty of other times that you seem to get there, just in the nick of time, to have a brief conversation with them and then they die.  It’s like you have some creepy ability to kill people who are hurt every time you finish a conversation.  Kinda like that cat Oscar in the nursing home who would curl up next to the people who were about to die. Seriously, what’s up with that?  It bothers me mainly because I tend to be very chatty in video games – I want to talk to everyone and know everything they can possibly say.  So if I missed a few dialogue options in the first conversation with the dying person, it drives me nuts that I can’t continue talking to them to ask the few more questions I’d like to ask.

Hopefully Ser Pounce-a-Lot doesn't have the same effect as Oscar

Going back to Keenan, I also was a little upset that I couldn’t talk to him further because, frankly, I thought he was kinda hot.  He had the Alistair haircut, and had a sexy voice.  Tall, dark and handsome!  Err…maybe not tall…as his legs were crushed.  Oops.  Not like I was interested in tenting (I mean, I do have a verrrrry sexy King aka Alistair waiting for me when I get home), but hey, a little flirting while I’m feeling so deprived of the hubs wouldn’t hurt.

-Kat

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As I’ve continued further within Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening, I still find myself being incredibly huffy at AndersWhy is Anders such an A**hole? He hasn’t said a word of praise to me, while he’s flirted with every other female-resembling-object around.  I’m steamed, and apparently can’t seem to get over this.

So I will pass my question along to you, dear readers.  Tell me, would you tent Avaline?  With enticing green eyes, a sexy pout, long, lean legs, and never wearing more than those Chasind Robes found in the Kokari Wilds, Avaline is one hot little red-haired minx.  Don’t you agree?

-Kat

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Thanks to one of our readers, I took the leap.  I did it.  I started Dragon Age: Origins – Awakening.  Remember how scared I was to start, thinking based off Wadoobie’s experience, Alistair would be distant and unfeeling towards me?  Well, he wasn’t.  All I have to say is, it made me want to run right back to court to get with him.  Thanks, Asperity!

Awakening has me remembering everything I loved about Origins.  Although I’m a little disappointed with the lack of being able to interact with party members when you walk up to them.  That bothers me.  A lot.  So now I have to run around looking for statues and casks and portraits to click on?

Anders

Anders, you're NOT Alistair. Stop trying.

Speaking of those characters, what is up with Anders?   I suppose he was meant to be sort of an Alistair replacement, with the similar-colored hair, the accent, the somewhat sarcastic attitude.  Even his name, Anders, is similar to Alistair.  But let me just point out one thing clearly.  ANDERS. IS. NOT. ALISTAIR.

First of all, what is up with Anders’ womanizing-type attitude?  He seems to want to get with anything female that moves – or even females that don’t; case in point: the Andraste statue – yet I haven’t seen him make a move.  Nor have I heard about any of his fabulous womanizing adventures like I did with Zevran.  But again, it’s not like I’ve been able to talk to Anders much.

And furthering that point, WTF?!  Am I, the hero of Fereldan, the slayer of the Archdemon, a human noble Leliana look-alike, QUEEN, not good enough for him?  While he has commented on every other female likeness or body around, he hasn’t said anything at all to me.

Avaline Take 2

Avaline still isn't Leliana. And I still think she's hotter.

Granted, Alistair did make it clear while Anders was nearby that we were together.  He kissed me goodbye.  I think that might have thrown Anders off a bit.

But still!  He could have said something before he knew all that!  But noooooo, nothing.  I guess BioWare is just making it clear that they’re not having any tenting this round.  …and that makes us at Polish the Console very, very sad.

Secondly, yes, the kitten (Ser Pounce-A-Lot) is adorable.  I love cats!  But isn’t it kinda weird that Anders’ only company while locked up in the Circle Tower was a cat?!  And the way he talks to the cat while you’re adventuring…is, to quote Alistair, “a little creepy, that”.

And…*shudder* the gold earring.  Anders, sorry, but you’re not a pirate.  Get that earring out.  That’s disturbing.  Only pirates should wear a single gold hoop, a low ponytail, and fur.  Except…wait, I forgot that Duncan has a very similar appearance.  Eh, Duncan gets a pass because he’s so badass.  And he’s not wearing fur.

Finally, if freaking Jowan can escape the Circle Tower, Anders should be able to.  If he’s worth his mana, that is.  Come on.  For shame, Anders, for shame.

I get the feeling that Anders is really all talk and no game.  Particularly when he has a super hot babe who stopped the Archdemon running around and fighting with him.  Therefore, Anders appears to be an a**hole.

Ah, well, I suppose it’s better than being introduced as a major character, only to die in the first hour of gameplay.  *ahem, ahem* Mhairi *ahem*

-Kat

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